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Old 10-29-2015, 11:56 AM
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I've learned so much with scheduling clients and talking to them. Then you get some not-so-nice guys wanting to book, I do very little screening, my screening is very simple. Now, I get a lot of guys who are rude, when I mean rude, it's name calling and this and that. I can get 10 new text messages from a recent ad I've posted and maybe 2-3 are very nice, the rest are unable to pay or pass the very simple screening. I think if I didn't care about my own well-being and allowed a demanding-rude-hat in my home, I would receive that type of behavior. The business for me is very busy, busy with the demanding-rude-hats and not enough of the kind-respectable gentleman.

Not to say I have days where a client is booked, usually those days I am not working. I get messages on days where I am not working but they've seen my ad, and a lot do contact me when I have prior estrangements with my life, some are down in the dumpster that they are unable to see me, others, simply are apologetic and move forward.

Shit happens to everyone, things come up last minute, an emergency occurs and no one is able to see someone when they once were planning to see someone. I've had emergencies come up, for instance my dog got sick and I rushed him to the hospital, I was gone for 10 hours and came back to 15 messages and some odd missed calls because I posted ads. Things happen. We can't control most of these things.

If no one books I am either enjoying that time with my dog, cleaning, or doing other things.

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Here's an interesting correlation to my view any way. I know a few professional musicians who are struggling to find paying gigs that allow them to not need a day or straight gig as well, the boomers drove the bar scene in the 80's into the 90's when all clubs and bars had live music virtually 6 nights a week and for some that was enough dough to do it full time. Drinking and driving laws (hard to argue) and demographics have seen the live music scene drop to maybe 3 nights a week and as well an owner can offer up free mike nights where amateurs can use the stage to live out their dreams and the owner pays them nothing. They found the crowd size on a M-T-W and even Thurs weren't impacted by this and now the pro musicians struggle to find even weekend paying gigs.

To me the correlation is this.. in our market BP ads are abundant in fact over abundant with part timers with burner cell phones who book a room for a day or two and scoop some dough and then disappear with little or no interest in cultivating an actual business or following. As well as the boomers move through and move on their replacements seem some what satisfied with this type of situation.

Just like the live music business, things have changed.

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I think there is a correlation, but some clients are still looking for quality. As for myself, I am a French blue eyed redhead, wich is very rare, and I have my regulars on every trip. I don't really get to meet new people, so I'm not in the same market.

But I also think that we all have our little twist, and without recos, well, there is no way we can stand out.

As for BP, there's very few guarantees that you'll find that diamond in the rough. It is up to the gents to get here, on Lyla, to make sure the lady is reliable and LEAVE RECOS so the others can consult them and make the right choices.

We have been telling our clients this since forever! Please, leave recos! Otherwise, well, chances of BS and ''fly by'' are sky rocketing.

I think clients just can't pay anymore. Yes, economy gets us all...

And as for the correlation you're making, I don't think Bell Centre is going to held back a paycheck. It all depends how we get represented...
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I certainly can't speak about most markets in Canada but what I have noticed in the last few years in St. John's is a dramatic increase in the number of visiting ladies... we always seemed to have a small regular group of very reputable ladies who would tour here and most still do and I think they generally do ok here but in my opinion there seems to be a lot more BP ads for visiting ladies with no website or presence on boards like this who appear and generally advertise for significantly lower rates than most of the well known ladies. In my experience this lower rate is not really a lower rate as the reality is that the service level is dramatically lower and everything is an extra charge once you are in the room. More recently I have seen lots of BP ads offering special rates of $80 or $100 and while I certainly love to save some money I don't see this as a good thing as it dramatically impacts the business of the extremely reputable ladies especially the wonderful local ladies here who are LYLA members.

Now don't get me wrong I appreciate and respect the right of each and every lady to set her own rates so I am not saying there is something wrong with all these "new" people in the market just emphasizing that it is having an impact and making things slow for some wonderful ladies who live or visit here.

I would also bet that some of the ladies who have worked in St. John's for many years would tell me that they have seen this before and that it is cylindrical business with lots of its ups and downs and no doubt they are right... but if you rely on the revenue and it's down I am pretty sure it still is difficult especially if moving on to a better market for a while is not an option.

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I'm curious as to how much of an impact C-36 has had on the industry in general...
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I'm curious as to how much of an impact C-36 has had on the industry in general...
I went into the sex trade after the C-36 so my experience/opinion will be different than others. I don't know what it was like before because I never experienced that. However, to think about it I don't enjoy listing what I do and don't do during an encounter. I don't list do's and don'ts in ads either. Those things aren't my style. I know that it was okay to mention that before the bill.

I've found more respect is happening. I used to be explicit with clients over text and emails, but it didn't do anything. I started to say, "I don't discuss that over email/text/PM please call to discuss." the turn out, very positive. If they want to hear how explicit I am in text form, anything could happen. I found that when I am straight with those who contact me, they usually respond with, "you are very honest, I like honesty that is sexy," so on so fourth. I don't accept clients who want that type of interaction before we met it's not necessary or effective.

I sit back relaxed and calm when responding. Yes, some men out there are extremely rude and therefore I explain to them clearly in a stern voice I don't accept that, some hangup, are apologetic, or continue to be rude.

Bill C-36 doesn't mean a lot to me other than there is more risks but I don't allow myself in those situations. If a ass-hat really wants to be abusive, they better think twice because I could care a less what the police think, he will be charged and the laws won't stop me. Why should I allow someone who thinks they have the "power" because they are buying a service, thinking they could just get away with it? I don't accept such clients and I screen without them knowing, very simple. 1 text message to me can determine that. It's all about how you communicate.

Yes. Bill C-36 needs to change but it isn't changing how I run my business at all. They need to put in place better screening (a lot don't know how to screen) a lot of educational classes for us (doesn't hurt to learn about how to protect ourselves even if we know that) to make it easier for us to reach out where the stigma is less and more accepting, and many other things.

You determine who you bring in. I choose who I want. I enjoy what I do and a law (a pathetic one and is very contradicting) isn't going to put any strain on that. I also don't care what others think of me either, that doesn't bother me.

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This does happen!! We All have a that friend or family member..lol
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Thanks for taking the time to post this! This is so helpful!
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As a person who is looking to jump on as a client, I've rather enjoyed this discussion. Thank-you.
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