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Old 04-01-2011, 12:37 AM
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Just for the record, the exact phraseology is : "New member or has not proven trustworthy yet", not "New member and has not proven trustworthy yet". You can look it up ... or you can trust me, ha ha.
I always trust WrinkledinTime, but that is NOT because he has the highest reputation on CERB. (I checked up on you anyway and you are right).

I also agree with Isabella Gia entirely. Unfortunately, I could not simply click on her reputation button to say this. I was told I had to spread reputation points around. (I was told the same for WrinkledinTime) and and therefore was forced to use my lousy keyboarding skills.

To WIT, or anyone else. What are the rules for spreading reputation points around? When does one get blocked from assigning rep points to a post?
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Really they are just level titles. Maybe the council has some ideas for this?

(We don't want to offend anyone of give the wrong impression)

CURRENT LEVELS

REP of 0 = User
REP of 9 = User has lost reputation points
REP of 10 = User New member or has not proven trustworthy yet
REP of 11 = User is gaining reputation
REP of 20 = User has over 20 reputation points
REP of 50 = User has over 50 reputation points
REP of 100 = User has over 100 reputation points!
REP of 500 = User has over 500 reputation points!!
REP of 1000 = User has over 1000 reputation points (Elite Member)
REP of 10000 = User has reached God Status

Everyone starts with 10 points. All you need is 1 point to change it from "User New member or has not proven trustworthy yet" to "User is gaining reputation"

The REASON I put the "Member has not proven trustworthy yet" was because of SHILL posts and SHILL recommendations. If the member has no valued post history then a recommendation or positive comment from this person you should take extra caution in believing it to be true. Someone who has a high reputation level and becomes creditable among the community is MORE likely not going to post a SHILL... sure it happens but it is a LOT less likely as it take time and effort to raise the rep level and to chance it all (and chance loosing your community status by having your account banned) makes the poster with high reputation levels more creditable.

It also says this person helps the community (and that is the most important part of the reputation in my eyes).

I tried to come up with titles for each level that WOULD NOT be offensive. Apparently I failed in some peoples eyes.

How do you politely say "Hey, this guy is new and has not contributed anything substantial to the site yet so this post could be a SHILL watch out"

Maybe it should say "This member has not earned any reputation yet from the community" would that be better??
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Thanks MOD, for clarifying some issues pertaining to rep points. Regarding the question you ask, I suggested what you propose in my second post on this thread.

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......How do you politely say "Hey, this guy is new and has not contributed anything substantial to the site yet so this post could be a SHILL watch out"

Maybe it should say "This member has not earned any reputation yet from the community" would that be better??
While I have your attention, would you mind clarifying the rules regarding "spreading rep points"?
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I found WIT's comments very imformative and true the hard way, I had 2 Elite members disapprove a post I made to a thread, saying I was trying to steal the thread. I won't argue the point of my lost reputation points, but personally I find the elite members maybe have to much power, they can either make or break your reputation points, especially for newbies. Based on my one infraction I lost 25 points.

So based on WIT's info a Elite member can either add 25 points or take away 12.5 points from your reputation.

My learnings ... I recommend you stay on topic within a thread, if unsure start a new thread.

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You can get Reputation Points in two ways:

First, from having another member approve of one of your posts (using the "Reputation for this Post" button). If the member is qualified to give out Rep Points (see below), then if the member approves of your post, your Rep Point total will be increased based on the giver's Rep-Point Power. If the member disapproves of your post, your Rep Point total will be decreased by half of the giver's Rep-Point Power.

Second, having another member nominate one of your posts will give you one Rep Point for each nomination.


There are different weights, based on the Rep-Point Power of the giver. Each time a member approves of another member's post, the number of rep-points that are given to the poster are equal to the giver's Rep-Point Power.

To begin with, you have to have BOTH at least 25 rep points of your own; AND at least 25 posts of your own in order to give out Rep Points. Below this threshold, approving of another members posts will not affect their Rep-Points. You can still leave a comment, however.

A member with 25 rep points who has made 25 posts will have a Rep-Point Power of 1. Beyond that, I'm not 100% sure of the exact formula for calculating Rep-Point Power. I think when a member hits 50 rep-points or 50 posts, their Rep-Point Power increases by 1 for each accomplishment, so a member with both 50 rep and 50 posts will have a Rep-Point Power of 3. I think the next level is 100, so a member with 100 rep and 100 posts will have a Power of 5. Beyond that level, Power increases by one for every additional 100 rep-points the member accumulates, and also by one for every additional 100 posts the member makes. (I stand to be corrected on the exact formula, but that's the general gist of how Rep-Point Power is calculated.)

I believe that when a member disapproves of a post, the poster's Rep Point total will be decreased by only half of the giver's Rep-Point Power.

Yes, always one Rep Point for each nomination, no matter who is doing the nominating.
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What are the rules for spreading reputation points around? When does one get blocked from assigning rep points to a post?
Firstly, you can only give out rep 10 times in any 24 hour period.

Secondly, once you have given rep to one particular person, you have to give rep (either by the "Rep for this post" button, or via nomination) to nine others before you can give more to the first person again, no matter how long a time since you last gave rep to the first person. (The intent of this rule is to cut back on abuse of the system by one member unfairly supporting only one or a few other members).

When there's a post I really want to give rep to, and I happen to run up against this second restriction, I just do a work-around. I set-about giving rep to enough other deserving posters until I have reached the total of nine required. Then I give the rep I really wanted to give in the first place. The way I look at it, there's plenty of thoughtful and informative posts made on the board -- so it isn't that hard to find enough good posts by others to allow the conditions to be fulfilled.

Hope this makes sense ...

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I,ve been on cerb just about two years now and this is the first time i found out how rep points work-i,ve never given any to anyone - i,ve simply nominated posts that i either agreed with strongly or felt the poster made a valuable or inciteful response to the post- have i been doing this wrong ? plus i simply did not know about the rep points-ignorance is bliss
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Maybe it should say "This member has not earned any reputation yet from the community" would that be better??
I'd vote for that: it's a simple statement of fact (most of the time), rather than a potential judgment.

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I'd vote for that: it's a simple statement of fact (most of the time), rather than a potential judgment.

Well said Phaedrus. I hope the MOD hears.
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Thanks, wellie. Looks like our esteemed Mod is already reading this thread, so should be no worries on that front.

One other point, related my original post: it would be nice if what new users saw on their own profiles and posts made them feel welcome, rather than implying that they're on probation. I know that new members *are* on probation, at least initially while their posts are moderated, but maybe we could change the rep-points message once a user is no longer in automatic moderation? I have no idea whether this is feasible or how much this actually matters in practice, though.
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