mod 135639 Report post Posted September 4, 2007 A different approach on a in-call location. Even though common bawdy house is illegal still in Canada (A In-Call Location) the law turns a blind eye to it at times it seams unless a pimp is involved, public complaints or suspected drug problems. Living off the avails (Pimping) is very illegal as well as underage prostitution so will the law accept a in-call location that no one lives off the avails? These ladies in this story are working on a non-profit "Co-Op" brothel idea that is drawing up some interest. "Paterson said she and Casey are volunteering their time and effort to develop the brothel project. She said she won't be paid when it opens." - Quote from story Full story here: http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5h7vzMj4A26uWmBGRRiF_kB0pvtBg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutesexymya 100 Report post Posted September 6, 2007 I think she is great for stepping out of the box and really doing something that will have a long term inpact on our industry. this will open the door to safer working conditions, which would be good for anybody involved in the industry on so many levels! good on her!!!!!! maybe she can take on "little texas" calgary too....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicole king 1149 Report post Posted September 10, 2007 I think she is great for stepping out of the box and really doing something that will have a long term inpact on our industry. this will open the door to safer working conditions, which would be good for anybody involved in the industry on so many levels! good on her!!!!!! maybe she can take on "little texas" calgary too....... Agreed. Its about time someone took the steps needed to start some serious change. I personally feel that the current laws are very outdated and can be too vague in most cases. Too many ladies make the wrong choices because many don't know what their rights or are afraid to speak out for fear of LE and a criminal record. Thanks Nicole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoyfulC 132299 Report post Posted September 10, 2007 Sorry, but I can't agree. The minute we have legal brothels, we'll have zoning bylaws and then we'll be in the same soup the strip clubs and adult stores have found themselves in all along. We'll bear the brunt of heavy accommodations costs and legal fees -- that is, when we can win the right to accommodations at all. As it stands now, we are able to work in reasonably priced residential areas in most cities in Canada (except those that license us -- another bylaw by-product!), as long as we keep a low profile and don't make waves. Under a literal reading of the Criminal Code, we shouldn't have to provide accommodation -- technically, that should be up to the client, at the very least when dealing with SPs who don't know him well enough to invite him to their discreet accommodations under circumstances that are safe both from a security and a legal standpoint for them. But because so many municipalities have opted to turn a blind eye to open advertising of incalls, it's now incumbent upon local escorts in many communities to provide accommodations -- and often this happens at risk to the escort, without any additional remuneration! Frankly, I think we've ended up with a situation that favours clients over and above the security and legal risks/expenses of SPs. Having worked under both situations, I know that there won't be any less business if we were to go back to when the customers bore their fair and reasonable responsibilities, with the hope of earning privileges by way of verification and familiarity. Trust me, ladies -- there was as much or more business back then! I think going the brothel route serves the clients, but does little to serve us. We'd be better off leaving the status quo the way it is or pushing to have the police more effectively enforce the bawdy house laws. ..c.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicole king 1149 Report post Posted September 12, 2007 Sorry, but I can't agree. The minute we have legal brothels, we'll have zoning bylaws and then we'll be in the same soup the strip clubs and adult stores have found themselves in all along. We'll bear the brunt of heavy accommodations costs and legal fees -- that is, when we can win the right to accommodations at all. My point wasn't that I think we should have legal brothels. In some ways that can make it more difficult to operate. I can only imagine the paper agencies would have to do if we have lic. brothels. I checked out some of the requirements to get a lic. in some cities and with the amount of information I have to collect I might as well become a PI. I am sure I would make higgans proud. I do think that what this lady is trying to get some awareness into this industry and that the current laws need to be updated. Many ladies make the wrong choices because the current laws do not allow people to educate others on how this business works. Thanks Nicole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest E**a Report post Posted September 13, 2007 If decriminalization happens tomorrow morning: While renting an apartment and honestly telling the landlord that your income comes from the sex industry, will he be less inclined to downright refuse the rental solely because of your occupation? During a battle for child custody, will the judge refrain from declaring you an "unfit mother", no matter how many clean drug tests you submit? If you get assaulted at work, will the police say "let's go after him right now" instead of "it's part of the job"? Will your family be more accepting of your career choice? While our sex work organizations already fight stigmatization, I wish that they would put more energy into this than into changing the laws. Another point: in any industry that requires paying licensing fees, they receive something in return. Given the stigmatization surrounding our industry, I suspect it will do more harm than good. Just like JoyfulC, I suspect that if decriminalization happens, licensing requirements will mushroom, given the way taxation is (ab)used in Canada. Being licensed means being registered in a sex work registry, and once your name is there, you cannot travel to certain countries, such as the USA, China and Japan because they officially deny entry to sex workers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
