Grass_Hopper 18263 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 Yeah, I know, I rant a lot and it looks like I have a solution to everything... But check this out! Why don't we have a liscence (just as SmartServe), but for the sex industry? For us: In any event, this would be an easy piece of I.D.; Some courses (such as Laws and How to react when it goes bad, or whatever subject you want to put in) would be mandatory, giving us more tools to ''defend'' ourselves in awkward situation; Would help keeping a track records of sex workers (numbers and/or location); Would help control sex trade, if not help to irradicate; Would control the age of sex workers... And there would be so much to add to this list... Just saying... I would'nt mind putting money out to have peace of mind regarding laws... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 There are a lot of cities where you must get a license. Just that Harper chose to go a different and quite frankly dangerous route. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice4fun 78396 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 The reality is Mr. Harper has chosen to cater to his right wing conservative base and position the people in this industry as criminals, human traffickers, and child abusers rather than respect the majority of Canadians View that people should have the right to control their own bodies including engaging in consensual sex for pay. For purely political reasons Mr Harper has chosen to vilify the participants in this industry and place them in increased risk rather than making prostitution legal and regulating it like other industries to ensure worker and consumer safety. After all why actually fix the problems when you can instead use it as a wedge issue to solidify your right wing base and put the Liberal party in the position of having to prove they are not supporting human trafficking.... shame on Mr. Harper. Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 they had such little interest in anything about what shold be done they didnt ven find out what was bring done in diffeyent cities already that was effective. escort licenses and MA i parlour licensing or cities actually issuing bodyrub licenses or VPD working on a harm rrduction policy that involved sitting down wih sex workes groups and so on. i th ink this is why so many cities have announced they dont plan to enforce...enforcement means in some cases throwing out effective policies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 What are you are proposing makes perfect sense. But as we know the Feds who brought in the new laws regard all sex workers as victims and all clients as perverts so their misguided logic is to make it harder not easier to flourish in the hopes it will just all go away. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhantomKnight 7914 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 I find as time goes on in this country it becomes more conservative and more rules are put in place. It may not be for the best interest of the people, but as long as it looks like they are doing something they think the votes will come in. I spent manu months serving this country in a place for those who didn't have "freedom" or so we were all told. Sadly I felt more free there than I ever have in Canada. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyra.Graves 23779 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 Yeah, I know, I rant a lot and it looks like I have a solution to everything... But check this out! Why don't we have a liscence (just as SmartServe), but for the sex industry? For us: In any event, this would be an easy piece of I.D.; Some courses (such as Laws and How to react when it goes bad, or whatever subject you want to put in) would be mandatory, giving us more tools to ''defend'' ourselves in awkward situation; Would help keeping a track records of sex workers (numbers and/or location); Would help control sex trade, if not help to irradicate; Would control the age of sex workers... And there would be so much to add to this list... Just saying... I would'nt mind putting money out to have peace of mind regarding laws... It would also limit what you could do in your future and where you could go. Just as an example the US would not allow you to travel there if you are identified as a sex worker in Canada, if you had another job and did this part time you would not be able to travel for your work to the US and that would certainly limit many people in their careers. Then of course there would be the many Islamic countries where you could be put at real risk for being a sex worker. Unless of course you think that this information would be kept confidential... but in this day and age that is an increasingly difficult promise for governments to make even if they do believe strongly in the individuals right to privacy and Harper has not been the best advocate for the rights of sex workers nor individual privacy. 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice4fun 78396 Report post Posted April 11, 2015 I find as time goes on in this country it becomes more conservative and more rules are put in place. It may not be for the best interest of the people, but as long as it looks like they are doing something they think the votes will come in. Strangely enough I don't actually think that the Canadian public is becoming more "conservative" I kinda thing the public is becoming more open and accepting.. unfortunately acceptance and willingness to actually stand up and defend someone's rights are not the same thing... sure most people in Canada if polled might agree to making prostitution legal but are they passionate enough about the issue to actually push for it to happen.. NO. On the other side though there, is a passionate well organized right wing organization that is willing to put their money and their actions where their mouth is so they while a minority have been very successful in driving the political agenda. Certainly the pro legalization side has been making gains and is more active but let's face it for a lot of Canadians, because of the way this industry has been portrayed in the past they look down on sex workers even when they agree in theory on the right for a person to control their own body. We may have a majority of Canadians who now are not against legalization of prostitution but for the most part it is still a SILENT majority. This is a cultural change which will take time. Just my Opinion Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted April 19, 2015 Licensing is problematic for a few reasons. 1. As Kyra stated above, not every sex worker wants a permanent record of their involvement in the sex industry. 2. Creates a criminalized sector of sex workers who cannot access licensing (eg. because they are undocumented or don't have enough money to pay the cost). 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted April 19, 2015 also some SWers have criminal records from solicitation charges and i imagine part of licensing is going to be a background check they cannot pass. the gov decided to refuse to expunge records related to criminal charges they got under old laws. this will then allow antis to claim "legalization" failed here because they can point at how some SWs are working illegally and must be trafficked. many complaints about some countries are actually due to laws and regulations that do not take into account how SWs who are not street and are indy actually work. which tends to be why new zealands model is unique in how well it works. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midnite-Energies 110563 Report post Posted April 20, 2015 Quite frankly with what I've seen of governments lately, here and the US, I would be fearful of being licensed. While it may start out with good intentions, that licensing gives power to whatever collective holds the information. If it's government run and a shift occurs, that license information could end up being a "round up" list or a "monitor" list. Also, with this type of thing, the control of the information would be out of your hands. Would it be classified or public record. Would your real name be associated with it or could you use a 'screen name'. Until there is a great shift in the perception, stigma and reality surrounding sex work, I doubt I would feel safe and protected in a licensed situation. This on top of already mentioned issues associated with travel, leaving the industry, not being able to afford licensing etc. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
