drlove 37202 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 Have there been any recent developments on the constitutional challenge regarding prostitution laws in Canada? I know the issue was brought before the courts by two sex workers sometime last year, but I haven't heard of any decisions concerning it. Does anyone have any leads / links? Thanks in advance! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted June 20, 2010 Have there been any recent developments on the constitutional challenge regarding prostitution laws in Canada? I know the issue was brought before the courts by two sex workers sometime last year, but I haven't heard of any decisions concerning it. Does anyone have any leads / links? Thanks in advance! The Ontario case (Bedford, Lebovitch, and Scott) is still awaiting a decision from the Ontario Superior Court of Justice. Keep in mind that the losing party is likely to take the Superior Court decision to the Ontario Court of Appeal. In turn, the losing party will likely take the appeal court?s decision to the Supreme Court of Canada .... The British Columbia case (Kiselbach) is also awaiting a decision from the BC Appeals Court. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted June 21, 2010 The media haven't forgotten about this issue, either. The Vancouver Sun of today 21 June 2010 published this opinion by Mario Canseco. (The Angus Reid poll referred to in this article can be seen here: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=19551): http://www.vancouversun.com/news/staggering+incoherence+Canada+prostitution+laws/3180224/story.html A proper legislative discussion on the inconsistency of Canada's prostitution laws is long overdue. British Columbians recently endured the lengthy trial of Robert Pickton, and came face-to-face with the perils of life on the street for dozens of women who were victimized. Just a few blocks away from the Downtown Eastside, purported massage parlours operate in apparent disregard of the Criminal Code, blatantly advertising access to women on the Internet or the back pages of weekly periodicals. Last year, two challenges to Canada's prostitution laws were launched in British Columbia and Ontario. It is the expectation of the plaintiffs that the Supreme Court of Canada will end up making the final call on how our country's prostitution laws should be interpreted. Under existing guidelines, exchanging sex for money in Canada is legal. However, the Criminal Code makes many activities surrounding prostitution illegal, including the public communication for the purposes of prostitution, and owning, running, occupying or transporting anyone to a bawdy house (or brothel). In a 1990 decision, the Supreme Court of Canada called this incoherence "bizarre." A survey conducted by Angus Reid Public Opinion sought to review just how much Canadians know about existing legislation, and whether they would be open to change. For starters, just 23 per cent of respondents are aware of the fact that exchanging sex for money in Canada is legal, with residents of Ontario and British Columbia being a little better informed than those in other provinces -- but not by much. Canadians, however, are divided on whether it makes sense to criminalize all other aspects of prostitution. Two-in-five claim that the Criminal Code provisions are fair to the purpose of protecting the public good, while the same proportion view them as unfair and forcing prostitutes into unsafe situations. It has been suggested that Canada look at the examples of other countries. In Norway, the government opted to make purchasing sex a criminal act. Under the new regulations that came info force last year, Norwegian citizens and residents now face a punishment-- ranging from fines to jail terms -- if they decide to exchange money for sex. Canadians are not ready to take this drastic step. Half of respondents to the Angus Reid survey believe that adults should be allowed to engage in consensual prostitution without punishment, while 34 per cent would punish both the prostitutes and the clients, and eight per cent would only punish the clients. Throughout the entire survey, a wide gender gap is evident. While 60 per cent of men are ready to accept consensual prostitution in Canada, only 36 per cent of women concur. And while 43 per cent of female respondents want to see both prostitutes and clients punished, this view is shared by only 25 per cent of men. Canadians are also open to the concept of brothels, with the impression that working indoors would make prostitutes safer. Two-thirds of men and half of women surveyed supported this notion. However, the gender gap appears again on another question. While 62 per cent of men are in favour of decriminalizing some aspects of the sex trade, only 40 per cent of women side with this option. It is clear that male respondents are more welcoming of prostitution than female respondents, on the questions related to working indoors, punishment and even on how a new policy should be created. Canadian women, for the most part, relate to prostitution as an exploitation issue and do not believe that decriminalization will help. The 1990 case that reached the Supreme Court dealt with the issue of liberty, and the judges stopped short of openly discussing decriminalization. This time around, the prevalent issue is safety, which is at the heart of the double-standard that is flagrant in Vancouver. The lack of a consistent approach has allowed better funded operations to advertise their services openly, while other sex workers are routinely exposed to disease, violence and even death. They are both, for all intents and purposes, acting in direct contravention of the Criminal Code. But one is evidently safer than the other, not because of a suitable safeguard under the law, but because of wealth. Lawmakers are supposed to make laws. On this particular file, the centre-left and the centre-right have failed to formulate a strategy. Conservatives may not want to alienate their base by appearing to endorse a way of life that is contrary to their moral beliefs. Liberals may not want to touch the law because it may be construed as an attack on the civil liberties that they hold dear. Ignoring the problem, which has been the modus operandi for decades, is clearly the worst course of action. When it comes to prostitution, Norway has opted to punish the clients. In Canada, it is the lawmakers -- past and present -- who require a scolding. Mario Canseco is vice-president, public affairs, at Angus Reid Public Opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Hooray, for Wrinkled, doing all our research for us. Haha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mutau 2516 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 Hi WiT, Greatly appreciate the update on the legal situation. Looks like it will be a few more years before a final resolution at the SCC level as the cases wind their ways through the lower courts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drlove 37202 Report post Posted June 23, 2010 Under existing guidelines, exchanging sex for money in Canada is legal. However, the Criminal Code makes many activities surrounding prostitution illegal, including the public communication for the purposes of prostitution, and owning, running, occupying or transporting anyone to a bawdy house (or brothel). In a 1990 decision, the Supreme Court of Canada called this incoherence "bizarre." Pardon my ignorance, but what was the law prior to 1990? Also, if by their own admission the Supreme Court called the incoherence bizarre, as WIT mentioned, then why wasn't it overturned right then and there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etasman2000 15994 Report post Posted June 23, 2010 Pardon my ignorance, but what was the law prior to 1990? Also, if by their own admission the Supreme Court called the incoherence bizarre, as WIT mentioned, then why wasn't it overturned right then and there?[/left][/indent] IANAL don't think the SC can overturn the law just interpret it. That is the job of lawmakers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drlove 37202 Report post Posted June 23, 2010 Well, here's hoping that they get all their ducks in a row sooner rather than later, and set things right! 8-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted June 25, 2010 (edited) Pardon my ignorance, but what was the law prior to 1990? Also, if by their own admission the Supreme Court called the incoherence bizarre, as WIT mentioned, then why wasn't it overturned right then and there? The Supreme Court only rules on the specific issues that are placed before it. For the record, the following is the statement that was made in 1990. It was part of the introduction to the section of the Supreme Court ruling that dealt with the specific claim that the criminal code provision that prohibited communication in public for the purpose of engaging in prostitution was a violation of the right to liberty as guaranteed in Section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms: I should like to point out at the outset something that may seem obvious to some, or which may come as a surprise to others, but which in any event needs to be kept in mind throughout: prostitution is not illegal in Canada. We find ourselves in an anomalous, some would say bizarre, situation where almost everything related to prostitution has been regulated by the criminal law except the transaction itself. The appellants' argument then, more precisely stated, is that in criminalizing so many activities surrounding the act itself, Parliament has made prostitution de facto illegal if not de jure illegal. Keeping in mind that the specific claim before the Court was that this situation constituted a violation of the right to liberty, the Supreme Court found that this particular right could not be interpreted to mean economic liberty. Previous jurisprudence dealing with Section 7 of the Charter was extensively cited to support this conclusion. In essence (my summary), the right to exercise one's chosen profession, if there is such a right, is not based on this Charter provision, which is instead more concerned with physical liberty and security. (The current Bedford, Lebovitch, and Scott case in Ontario, which also involves Section 7 of the Charter, differs from 1990 in that it steers the issue directly at this physical aspect of liberty and security, i.e. personal safety.) The other issue dealt with in the same ruling by the Supreme Court was regarding the right to freedom of expression under Section 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Court held that the criminal code provision that prohibited communication in public for the purpose of engaging in prostitution was in violation of the right to freedom of expression. However it could be justified under section 1 of the Charter and so it was upheld. The decision was that the purpose of "curbing nuisances and related criminal activities associated with public solicitation" was a valid goal and that the Criminal Code provision that prohibited communication in public was rationally connected and proportional to that goal. Accordingly, the provision was upheld under section 1 of the Charter as falling within "reasonable limits ... demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society". (Again, the current Bedford, Lebovitch, and Scott case in Ontario must start from this ruling, but they argue that the purpose of the law is not being fulfilled in practice, and that therefore the limits imposed by this law are not reasonable and proportional.) http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/1990/1990canlii105/1990canlii105.html Edited June 25, 2010 by W***ledi*Time added comparison to current case Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
