Bbfs

I find it incomprehensible that people would even ask for this.

Is there any sense as to the demographic of those requesting this? I've read that young people aren't, in general, taking on board the safe sex message.

It also worries me that if people are asking, they may be finding providers somewhere who are willing. All the more reason to stay with reputable and well established ladies. I also hope that ladies immediately put anyone who asks for this on their do not see list.

Porthos

Non monogamous BBFS - Kinda like making a deal with the Devil I recon :icon_twisted: tsk tsk tsk

It always amazes me that you still have to post a thread like this, and seems to me that there should be some form of censure if they can be identified as members here.

I love the offer of 'proof'. We're not in the porn business, this means nothing!

 

My answer to these requests, because they almost always come with an offer of more money, is 'There is nothing you can put in my wallet that is worth risking my health. GOODBYE'.

 

I will never, every understand why people ask for this.

I couldn't agree more. Every once and a while I get guys who try this out and the answer is always NO. Some people will try anything to get what they want. The best way of avoiding this is telling them that this is not right and not seeing them. There will always be gentlemen out there who respect your rules and your body. So clients like this is not worth it.

This is beyond the concept of a thrill, and a crazy risk for everyone. Why or why, some guys think this is even an option to ask, one has to wonder...

Ladies, stick to your guns, you are right to tell this guys take a hike and keep on going...

Yikes! I'm glad to hear that the ladies have enough sense to say no.

Yikes! I'm glad to hear that the ladies have enough sense to say no.

Same here; thumb-ups for all the fine ladies here!

I'm happy about the ladies' reaction to bbfs requests. If I found out an SP provides this service, it would be an instant turn off, and I would be too concerned about my own safety and the safety of her and her other clients.

There seems to be a new trend on the rise. A very unsafe new trend. Numerous ladies, including myself, have reported an increase in a request for BBFS. These requests are often accompagnied by offers of increased donations or promises of their youth and good looks.

Eeek, here in Canada you say. Sadly this is very much commonly available for very small extra fee in one of the countries I choose to spend a lot of time in. The result is that I dare not have anything to do with any of the ladies in this country, ever, under any circumstances and never have to spite their incredible beauty. The result as you can imagine is that were this is available also is every STD commonly available at no extra charge.

To me this is clearly one of the darkest aspects of this business and I truly hope it is very unavailable here.

Fortunately we tend to have the attitude that seeing a "professional" CERB lady is safer than any random encounter with a stranger.

Interestingly, even in a monogamous relationship (e.g. wife back when it was possible) I have always preferred a condom. I find it doesn't diminish the experience in any way (for me).

Well, we've always known that fools exist. It saddens me to hear that there's more of them around than there used to be.

Perhaps there are SPs around that are sufficiently desperate for cash that they'll do BBFS... but really, what price is your life worth? And on the off-chance that any of the guys who request BBFS are reading this... do you seriously think that you're the *only* person that the SP who allows BBFS has done that with? Even if you don't care about what she may get from you, have you stopped to consider the risk you're taking with your own well-being? I'm not sure what the odds on this gamble are, but the price of losing is... high. Very high. Are you prepared to pay it?

Having said all that... I suspect this problem will eventually sort itself out.

Just don't let the foolish take you down with them.

RG

Phaedrus was, I think, referring to candidates for the Darwin Prize and in some way, the problem could be minimised.

There seems to be a new trend on the rise. A very unsafe new trend.

I agree with everything you've said although I thought this was always being requested of SPs, not just recently. Requests are on the rise?

This is extremely disturbing. Could it be the requester getting the idea from watching porn? I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone. Just wondering.

I get asked for this fairly often from new clients in their late 50s and 60s. They usually say something about how they haven't been with anyone other than their wife for years, so they're sure that they're completely safe. They tend to think that STIs are risks that younger people need to deal with but since I'm a professional they're sure I'm not carrying anything that they need to worry about. Needless to say, they don't get anywhere with me.

I, too, have heard that other women provide bbfs for an extra $50-100. I don't pay any attention to these claims. Why? Well, in my experience, sex is one of the things people lie about all the time! If someone thinks that telling a particular story may help them get what they want, the incentive to lie is strong.

I don't offer any uncovered contact, period. If someone questions me about it, I politely inform him that it's my job to keep us both safe and healthy. A syphilis epidemic has been going on in Vancouver since the mid 1990s. If I were to offer bbbjs, I might expose the recipients to syphilis unknowingly, since it can live very happily in a human throat for many months without producing any symptoms. This usually brings that conversation to an end!

I get asked for this fairly often from new clients in their late 50s and 60s. They usually say something about how they haven't been with anyone other than their wife for years, so they're sure that they're completely safe.

I was watching something on CNN a few months ago about the prevalence of unsafe sex in seniors. A lot of them have the "I'm old, who cares?" attitude. They even interviewed a few who admitted to contracting STI/STDs, who after getting treated, still pursue unsafe sex practices.

It was kinda funny, then deeply disturbing when I thought about it more. Unsafe sex is never, ever okay.

I get asked for this fairly often from new clients in their late 50s and 60s. They usually say something about how they haven't been with anyone other than their wife for years, so they're sure that they're completely safe. They tend to think that STIs are risks that younger people need to deal with but since I'm a professional they're sure I'm not carrying anything that they need to worry about.

I have to say, the level of cognitive dissonance here simply baffles me. Do these people really not understand the inherent contradiction between the assumption they're explicitly making and the request they've just made? I just don't get it. At all.

On a different tangent, a question... I'm guessing it's tough to tell over the phone or email, but what sort of age are the people who are requesting BBFS? I'm just wondering, because there's a generation now coming of age who have never really known STIs as a life-shattering disaster; in particular, they missed the era in which an HIV diagnosis was a death sentence. And so I'm wondering if the increase may be a combination of the young, who have never really understood the severity of these things, and the older folks who never had anything much in the way of sex-ed in their youth and got themselves married off before STIs were really talked about much.

Pure speculation, of course. A penny for your thoughts (for as long as they're legal tender :) )

I have to say, the level of cognitive dissonance here simply baffles me. Do these people really not understand the inherent contradiction between the assumption they're explicitly making and the request they've just made? I just don't get it. At all.

 

On a different tangent, a question... I'm guessing it's tough to tell over the phone or email, but what sort of age are the people who are requesting BBFS? I'm just wondering, because there's a generation now coming of age who have never really known STIs as a life-shattering disaster; in particular, they missed the era in which an HIV diagnosis was a death sentence. And so I'm wondering if the increase may be a combination of the young, who have never really understood the severity of these things, and the older folks who never had anything much in the way of sex-ed in their youth and got themselves married off before STIs were really talked about much.

 

Pure speculation, of course. A penny for your thoughts (for as long as they're legal tender :) )

Having just had the safe sex conversation recently with my teenage son, I wonder about this as well. He said all the right things in our conversation, but he also left me with the distict impression than not many of his friends bothered with such things.

Porthos